APPROPRIATIONS
This page documents some of the many appropriations of chipmusic: trolls, samplers, remixers and plagiarists. The purpose is not to dismiss any uses but to document a tendency that was much debated in the chip- and demoscene during the 00’s. Please note that this has been poorly updated since 2011. Also check 8bitcollective’s Hall of Shame, MOD Archive’s Hall of Shame, threads at pouet & csdb and Saga Musix re Timelord.
PLAGIARISM
Once We Were Robots (2011). Put vocals on songs by Je Mappelle, Kola Kid, Smiletron, Monster! Monster!, etc. Did the same thing in 2009 as Le Peg. Chipmusic-thread + youtube-clip + ReverbNation.
Sinsid (2010). Published C64-songs by e.g. Randy, PRI, GRG and Kristian Rostoen, Thor, Eco and Kasmo at his 8bc-account. csdb-thread + last.fm
HtheB (2010). Put his name on songs from various artists for a digital download album and a number of NDS-games. chipflip 1 + 2
TV Death Squad (2009). American artist using music from Random, Mesu Kasumai, Goto80, Psilodump, Ten and Tracer, Combatdave, Wiklund. Denied plagiarism accusations. chipflip
Laromlab (2008). Album-release and USA-tour, claiming authorship to previously released chipmusic mostly without modifying the original. Public apology followed. Details at Crazy Q’s page. Original songs by Dubmood, Crazy Q, Dma-Sc, Aleksi Eeben, Lotek Style, Gasman, Ikuma, Random, and Goto80.
SAMPLES, COVERS, HOMAGES, REMIXES, ETC
Actress – Maze (2010). Samples the game Knight Lore.
Dam Funk & Computer Jay – Strange Days (2010). Samples the c-64 soundtrack to R-Type by Chris Hülsbeck.
Osten af Mozarella – Commodore 64 (2010). Uses Turtle Grains by Optic as backtrack for this song.
Disrupt & Soom T – Dirty Money (2009). Uses the C64-song Reggae2 by JLD, which led to a popular remix by An-ten-nae. jld-comment @ csdb
Rusko – Bionic Commando remix (2009). Remix of the game song. Not released on a label. discogs
Wermut (2008). German darkwave artist using a whole song by Mindflow. chipflip interview
Crystal Castles (2008). Heavy sampling and rearrangement of songs by Lo-Bat, and a beat-snippet sampled from Covox (spectral analysed by nitro2k01). No legal action taken. Civilised blog-post here and chiphate here. A bizarre detail is how Crystal Castles and Timbaland have used the same pulsewave-arpeggios in their songs (although a rather generic progression) – check it.
Frankmusik (2008). Brittish electro artist signed to Island Records samples rather moderately from two C64 demoscene songs. More info here and here.
Timbaland (2007). Acid Jazzed Evening was used in this song, produced by Timbaland. Original Amiga composition by Tempest but Timbaland used GRG’s C64-cover of the song. Check out this torrent or this youtube-clip to get the idea. Details at the wikipedia-article. Currently (September 2009) Tempest is “not talking about it” while GRG is still in a legal process.
Fitts for Fight (2007). Using songs from micromusic.net and the demoscene and putting vocals on top. Details in the micromusic statement. Public apology followed. Original songs by Stu, Binärpilot, DVD Heijden, 505, 8BitWeapon, DRX, Kluster Bounce, Arachno, and Yerzmey.
Egotronic – Exportschlager Leitkultur (2006). Samples Monty on the Run by Rob Hubbard. source
Deadmau5 – Edit Your Friends (2005). Samples Tim Follin’s Spectrum-song Chronos.
Bastian – You’ve Got My Love (2003?). This song includes a beat from Jeroen Tel and Reyn Ouwehand’s C64 song Rubicon. Bastian paid for it in the end.
Abe Duque – Champagne Days, Cocaine Nights (2003). Extensively samples the C64-tune Knight Tyme by David Whittaker. Excerpt from Duque’s tune here. According to discogs credits are in the notes of the record.
Las Palmas – Bidragskungen (2004). Uses the song from the C64-game Strip Poker. Original song here, Bidragskungen here.
Diplo – Diplo Rhythm (2004). Uses the music from the NES-game Platoon throughout the whole song. Released on Big Dada. youtube
Mark VII – Presents Action Replays (2002). Mash-ups C64 game music with rap acapellas. Released on the Monotonik sublabel No’Mo’. mp3 & info
Logic Bomb – Extension (2000). Samples the Amiga mod Cyberride by Jester.
Hardy Hard – Silver Surfer (1999). Based on the Amiga mod Beams of Light by Walkman.
Monotrona (1998-2003). Used various C64-songs and added vocals. More info here.
Anton Maiden (1998-2000?). Used MOD- and General MIDI-covers of Iron Maiden, put vocals on it and released it on a label. chipflip
Blitter vs Hrvatski – Nuclear Cats Get New Home (1998). Samples various C64-songs (Wizball, Flash Gordon, Turbo Outrun?). youtube
Toni Phobia & DJ Charles – High Pumping (1998). Uses the melody from David Whittaker’s C64-music Storm. youtube
Dimmu Borgir – Sorgens Kammer (1996). Covering Tim Wright’s musicfrom the Amiga game Agony without credit.
Hardsequencer – Magic Flight (1994). Based on the Amiga song Stardust Memories by Jester. music+info
Paul Johnson – Psycho Kong (1994). 8 songs based on samples from Donkey Kong. discogs
Itch-E & Scratch-E – Awaken (1993). Uses a melody by from 4mat’s Amiga mod Cardiac Pause as a theme in the song. youtube
Ionosphere – Clear Blue Sky (1993). Uses bits from 4mat’s Amiga mod Madness.
Power-Pill – Pac-Man (1992). Aphex Twin samples Pacman. discogs
Gentle Giant – Time to Kill (1975). Seems to sample Pong? youtube
MISCELLANEOUS
V/A – 8 Bit Rude Boy (2011). An MP3-compilation pressed on vinyl without permission. 8bc-thread
Apps with keygen/crackintro music (2010). This app uses 360 chiptunes and is sold for $. More info here (which also mentions this other app).
Jamster – Crazy Frog (200?). Using Bodenständig 2000‘s song ‘In Rock 8 Bit’ in Crazy Frog TV-ads without permission. See comment field for more info.
Eisenfunk – Majak HQ (2008). Uses Supremacy by Jeroen tel. watch
Various Commercials. Goojet (2008) unauthorized use of a C64-song by Jeroen Tel. No actions have been taken. watch + Ariston (199?) uses Jonathan Dunn’s Gameboy-song for Robocop. watch
Swedish Radio P3 (2007-2010?). The comedy program Pang Prego used cut-up versions of Goto80’s song Pappap as a jingle throughout the season – without permission, without crediting.
Sally Shapiro / Johan Agebjörn (2006). A cover of Overload by Mantronix (aka Martin Wall) – as mentioned in the linear notes. info
Scooter – The Stadium Techno Experience (2003). “Level 1” – main melody covered from Chris Hülsbeck’s song “Freedom” for Turrican (2?). “A Little Bit Too Fast” samples the song “I Am Rushin'” by Chris Hülsbeck according to wikipedia.
Zombie Nation – Kernkraft 400 (1999). Main melody covered from David Whittaker’s Lazy Jones (subtrack21). According to NME Whittaker received money for it. Currently (March 2010) there is a lawsuit in process.
MOD-rippers. The Mod Archive had a Rippers Listing, now located here. An extreme example of mod-appropriation is when the PC-composers Purple Motion and Unreal got their songs appropriated by Jay Newingham. Check details here. Actually, the songs are still around in his own name – here. If you search for “jay” on this page you can see how a discussion about copyright in the demoscene could loook like, in the light of this case. Dj Distance ripped off mods in 2003, read about it here. Dj Isabelle ripped off mods in 2000, read about it here.
May 6, 2008 at 10:05 pm |
Nice one Mr.!
Perhaps you want to add this one? You be teh judge:
Junior Senior – Move Your Feet:
Stefan Konarkowski (Alien) – Funky Smile (Workaholic 3)
[audio src="http://www.se2a1.net:40000/soasc/MOS6581R4/MUSICIANS/A/Alien_WOW/Funky_Smile_Workaholic3_T01.sid.mp3" /]
May 6, 2008 at 10:21 pm |
Yeah, I saw it. Although it is a bit similar, I’ve chosen not to include it… Anyone against?
May 8, 2008 at 11:50 pm |
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May 24, 2008 at 3:00 pm |
that “Alien vs. Junior Senior” is really far-fetched. It’s good that you didn’t include it in your story. Claims from tonedeafs only hurt the cases of the chipmusicians involved.
July 3, 2008 at 3:24 pm |
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September 14, 2008 at 11:33 am |
@Pimpfest: I dunno about that. It’s an extremely similar chord progression and baseline. The dissonance makes it harder to hear but it’s definitely similar in parts.
December 15, 2008 at 7:48 pm |
[…] Copyright The demoscene grew up outside the market and laws that everybody had to follow. It is a very obscure, internal and bound subculture. Because most products are open source, remixing is very easy. Moreover, all the works are easy to reverse engineer since the code is always accessible through ‘disassembly’. (but it is harder to read that code, since ‘labels’ are removed. so there is no ‘free text’ anymore labeling a piece of the code as ‘jumping chains of death’, ’shitfuck’, or ‘dogman’, or lolcat). It is striking then, that even in this day and age, remixing doesn’t play a big role within the demoscene; in fact, the whole scene is based on an originality dogma. The people that are not doing cool stuff (like copying someone else’s code) are sanctioned by the collective by losing their ’status’. As history plays a paradoxical role, lately the chip music scene has had a lot of problems with copyright, since artists (like Crystal Castles and Nelly Furtado/Timbaland) from outside the scene have been ‘remixing’ music for commercial purposes, without permission from the makers. read more. […]
January 7, 2009 at 5:39 pm |
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June 12, 2009 at 9:07 am |
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June 30, 2009 at 11:34 am |
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August 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm |
Hej,
the Jamster case went like this: The animator of the “crazy frog”, before known as “the annoying thing”, once contacted Bodenständig 2000 asking if he could use “In Rock 8 Bit” for his now legendary animation. At this point it was just some fun he made in his free time. We agreed on letting him do it, he was “one of us”.
The video he made spread online, people posted it around in emails etc. Jamster in many cases just took animations that were popular online and sold them to people with mobile phones. The same here, they contacted the animator and licensed the video from him. The animator made clear that they didn’t have the rights to the sound track though. Bodenständig 2000 was never contacted.
In Germany the daughter company Jamba ran TV ads with the “crazy frog” using another music, that sounded a quite familiar but was not the same. So we thought that everything was alright. But then fans from the rest of the world wrote emails to us stating that in their countries, Jamster was using the original tune in TV ads. It proved to be true, a bad-ass rip-off.
Our hippie-publisher Stora/Freibank started some lawyer action. Some lawyers wrote some letters to each other, an expert was commissioned to prove that the tune is not a composition, another expert was commissioned to prove the opposite … in the end, after many years of paper being filled up, Bodenständig got some pocket money without a trial.
Jamster until the end claimed that they have no idea themselves how often their spot was aired because “they keep no records”. People who watched TV during the period in question know that it was on almost every 15 minutes on music channels, for several weeks. However, the tune was never sold as a ringtone, but to advertise another ringtone.
Well, i am glad its over, was just eating up nerves and energy.
drx/Bodenständig 2000
August 13, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
Just so you know, the modarchive ripper list is still online, but in a more “interactive” way – it’s hosted at our forums:
http://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?board=85.0
December 24, 2009 at 7:27 pm |
8bc owner Jose Torres caught stealing schematics and software from: http://www.reinerziegler.de/readplus.htm#Home%20made%20programming%20systems
People need to know, see user Abrasive: http://8bitcollective.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=16979&p=4
For over more than a year he could have been completely capable of sorting out the issues with the original creators and giving dues where dues are deserved. Instead he profited from them throughout that time frame. Over the course of weeks certain people have found out and put pressure on him to force him to change things, instead he retaliated by deleting and banning left and right.
Regardless, it any attempt to change any of this has been all talk so far and people should still know of his delinquent activity in regards to the 8bit/chip scene nonetheless. He is no different than Timbaland and the like, who have capitalized off the work of others without any shame or care. Nor should he be receiving special treatment simply because he is the owner of 8bc.
December 25, 2009 at 9:40 am |
Hello Double Standard. I’ve read about this at 8BC, but I want to get the facts straight before I write something. He admitted to using the code & schematics, but there are many question marks. If you have more information, feel free to e-mail me – info atatat goto80 dotdotdot comcomcom
May 25, 2010 at 11:23 am |
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June 10, 2010 at 8:57 am |
http://mikrobitti.fi/~jukkak/jay/index.html <– that link seems dead? has anyone a mirror?
December 21, 2010 at 11:06 pm |
Archive.org had one version from 2008, so I changed the link: http://web.archive.org/web/20080521191808/http://mikrobitti.fi/~jukkak/jay/index.html
August 4, 2010 at 3:07 am |
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December 21, 2010 at 9:35 pm |
If you want to, add sinsid (http://8bc.org/members/sinsid/) to the list. He’s known for stealing various c64 artists work. A shame the admins at 8bc won’t take his account down!
December 29, 2010 at 12:25 pm |
added, thanks!
June 27, 2012 at 10:29 am |
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October 6, 2013 at 10:13 pm |
Unrelated to sids but related to sampling and “plagiarism”.
bigup2dance.tumblr.com/post/60470908405/beat-sampling
December 2, 2015 at 12:27 pm |
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August 6, 2017 at 3:50 pm |
I wouldn’t put sampling and people who sample chiptunes on the same page or in the same league as straight up plagiarism.
February 27, 2018 at 6:52 am |
If I remember correctly, Hardy Hard was also known as Walkman, so it shouldn’t be on this list as he simply reworked his own song, right?
February 27, 2018 at 9:29 am |
Aha, do you have any more info on this? Admittedly I haven’t searched a lot, but as far as I can tell Hardy Hard is Kay Lippert from Germany, and I can’t find any records of him using the name Walkman.
March 4, 2020 at 1:28 am |
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