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		<title>By: Saga</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Saga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you know, the modarchive ripper list is still online, but in a more &quot;interactive&quot; way - it&#039;s hosted at our forums:
http://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?board=85.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know, the modarchive ripper list is still online, but in a more &#8220;interactive&#8221; way &#8211; it&#8217;s hosted at our forums:<br />
<a href="http://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?board=85.0" rel="nofollow">http://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?board=85.0</a></p>
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		<title>By: drx</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>drx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hej,

the Jamster case went like this: The animator of the &quot;crazy frog&quot;, before known as &quot;the annoying thing&quot;, once contacted Bodenständig 2000 asking if he could use &quot;In Rock 8 Bit&quot; for his now legendary animation. At this point it was just some fun he made in his free time. We agreed on letting him do it, he was &quot;one of us&quot;.

The video he made spread online, people posted it around in emails etc. Jamster in many cases just took animations that were popular online and sold them to people with mobile phones. The same here, they contacted the animator and licensed the video from him. The animator made clear that they didn&#039;t have the rights to the sound track though. Bodenständig 2000 was never contacted.

In Germany the daughter company Jamba ran TV ads with the &quot;crazy frog&quot; using another music, that sounded a quite familiar but was not the same. So we thought that everything was alright. But then fans from the rest of the world wrote emails to us stating that in their countries, Jamster was using the original tune in TV ads. It proved to be true, a bad-ass rip-off.

Our hippie-publisher Stora/Freibank started some lawyer action. Some lawyers wrote some letters to each other, an expert was commissioned to prove that the tune is not a composition, another expert was commissioned to prove the opposite ... in the end, after many years of paper being filled up, Bodenständig got some pocket money without a trial.

Jamster until the end claimed that they have no idea themselves how often their spot was aired because &quot;they keep no records&quot;. People who watched TV during the period in question know that it was on almost every 15 minutes on music channels, for several weeks. However, the tune was never sold as a ringtone, but to advertise another ringtone.

Well, i am glad its over, was just eating up nerves and energy.

drx/Bodenständig 2000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hej,</p>
<p>the Jamster case went like this: The animator of the &#8220;crazy frog&#8221;, before known as &#8220;the annoying thing&#8221;, once contacted Bodenständig 2000 asking if he could use &#8220;In Rock 8 Bit&#8221; for his now legendary animation. At this point it was just some fun he made in his free time. We agreed on letting him do it, he was &#8220;one of us&#8221;.</p>
<p>The video he made spread online, people posted it around in emails etc. Jamster in many cases just took animations that were popular online and sold them to people with mobile phones. The same here, they contacted the animator and licensed the video from him. The animator made clear that they didn&#8217;t have the rights to the sound track though. Bodenständig 2000 was never contacted.</p>
<p>In Germany the daughter company Jamba ran TV ads with the &#8220;crazy frog&#8221; using another music, that sounded a quite familiar but was not the same. So we thought that everything was alright. But then fans from the rest of the world wrote emails to us stating that in their countries, Jamster was using the original tune in TV ads. It proved to be true, a bad-ass rip-off.</p>
<p>Our hippie-publisher Stora/Freibank started some lawyer action. Some lawyers wrote some letters to each other, an expert was commissioned to prove that the tune is not a composition, another expert was commissioned to prove the opposite &#8230; in the end, after many years of paper being filled up, Bodenständig got some pocket money without a trial.</p>
<p>Jamster until the end claimed that they have no idea themselves how often their spot was aired because &#8220;they keep no records&#8221;. People who watched TV during the period in question know that it was on almost every 15 minutes on music channels, for several weeks. However, the tune was never sold as a ringtone, but to advertise another ringtone.</p>
<p>Well, i am glad its over, was just eating up nerves and energy.</p>
<p>drx/Bodenständig 2000</p>
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		<title>By: TRUE CHIP TILL DEATH &#187; Goto80 interview pt 2</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>TRUE CHIP TILL DEATH &#187; Goto80 interview pt 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t speak for anyone but yourself but I would be interested in your take on this. On your plagiarism page you talk about the Demo Scene&#8217;s internal (and fairly effective) method of dealing with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t speak for anyone but yourself but I would be interested in your take on this. On your plagiarism page you talk about the Demo Scene&#8217;s internal (and fairly effective) method of dealing with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Coincidence, Homage or Theft? &#171; CHIPFLIP</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Coincidence, Homage or Theft? &#171; CHIPFLIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from Ryuichi Sakamoto &amp; David Sylvian (youtube). I&#8217;ve decided not to add this to the plagiarism page. Seems like Anggune is most similar to Sakamoto &amp; Sylvian after all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from Ryuichi Sakamoto &amp; David Sylvian (youtube). I&#8217;ve decided not to add this to the plagiarism page. Seems like Anggune is most similar to Sakamoto &amp; Sylvian after all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another Plagiarism &#171; CHIPFLIP</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Plagiarism &#171; CHIPFLIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] electro artist Frankmusik has sampled a bit of a C64 tune from 1993 by the demoscener Jeff. After previous controversies there has been a fair amount of threads about &#8216;another theft from the scene&#8217; in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] electro artist Frankmusik has sampled a bit of a C64 tune from 1993 by the demoscener Jeff. After previous controversies there has been a fair amount of threads about &#8216;another theft from the scene&#8217; in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Masters of Media, New Media MA Amsterdam &#187; Chip music and the 8bit demoscene - Hacking, Open Source and Remixing</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Masters of Media, New Media MA Amsterdam &#187; Chip music and the 8bit demoscene - Hacking, Open Source and Remixing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Copyright The demoscene grew up outside the market and laws that everybody had to follow. It is a very obscure, internal and bound subculture. Because most products are open source, remixing is very easy. Moreover, all the works are easy to reverse engineer since the code is always accessible through &#8216;disassembly&#8217;. (but it is harder to read that code, since &#8216;labels&#8217; are removed. so there is no &#8216;free text&#8217; anymore labeling a piece of the code as &#8216;jumping chains of death&#8217;, &#8217;shitfuck&#8217;, or &#8216;dogman&#8217;, or lolcat). It is striking then, that even in this day and age, remixing doesn&#8217;t play a big role within the demoscene; in fact, the whole scene is based on an originality dogma. The people that are not doing cool stuff (like copying someone else&#8217;s code) are sanctioned by the collective by losing their &#8217;status&#8217;. As history plays a paradoxical role, lately the chip music scene has had a lot of problems with copyright, since artists (like Crystal Castles and Nelly Furtado/Timbaland) from outside the scene have been &#8216;remixing&#8217; music for commercial purposes, without permission from the makers. read more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Copyright The demoscene grew up outside the market and laws that everybody had to follow. It is a very obscure, internal and bound subculture. Because most products are open source, remixing is very easy. Moreover, all the works are easy to reverse engineer since the code is always accessible through &#8216;disassembly&#8217;. (but it is harder to read that code, since &#8216;labels&#8217; are removed. so there is no &#8216;free text&#8217; anymore labeling a piece of the code as &#8216;jumping chains of death&#8217;, &#8217;shitfuck&#8217;, or &#8216;dogman&#8217;, or lolcat). It is striking then, that even in this day and age, remixing doesn&#8217;t play a big role within the demoscene; in fact, the whole scene is based on an originality dogma. The people that are not doing cool stuff (like copying someone else&#8217;s code) are sanctioned by the collective by losing their &#8217;status&#8217;. As history plays a paradoxical role, lately the chip music scene has had a lot of problems with copyright, since artists (like Crystal Castles and Nelly Furtado/Timbaland) from outside the scene have been &#8216;remixing&#8217; music for commercial purposes, without permission from the makers. read more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mezkal</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>mezkal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pimpfest: I dunno about that.  It&#039;s an extremely similar chord progression and baseline.  The dissonance makes it harder to hear but it&#039;s definitely similar in parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pimpfest: I dunno about that.  It&#8217;s an extremely similar chord progression and baseline.  The dissonance makes it harder to hear but it&#8217;s definitely similar in parts.</p>
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		<title>By: CREATIVE COMMONS AND CHIP MUSIC THEFT &#124; Netlabel Inside</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>CREATIVE COMMONS AND CHIP MUSIC THEFT &#124; Netlabel Inside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CHIPFLIP: Plagiarism [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chiptune Tits &#171; CHIPFLIP</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiptune Tits &#171; CHIPFLIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the Crystal Castles buzz, which I never wrote about here (well, it&#8217;s mentioned in the plagiarism-page). Anyway. I will try to stick to saying chiptune about a particular chip..eh..tune..song, which is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the Crystal Castles buzz, which I never wrote about here (well, it&#8217;s mentioned in the plagiarism-page). Anyway. I will try to stick to saying chiptune about a particular chip..eh..tune..song, which is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pimpfest</title>
		<link>http://chipflip.wordpress.com/plagiarism/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>pimpfest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that &quot;Alien vs. Junior Senior&quot; is really far-fetched. It&#039;s good that you didn&#039;t include it in your story. Claims from tonedeafs only hurt the cases of the chipmusicians involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that &#8220;Alien vs. Junior Senior&#8221; is really far-fetched. It&#8217;s good that you didn&#8217;t include it in your story. Claims from tonedeafs only hurt the cases of the chipmusicians involved.</p>
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